tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post2295948471749152606..comments2023-04-04T08:07:42.350-04:00Comments on SBC Plodder: The inherent flaw in the Cooperative ProgramWilliam Thorntonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-74138832638219039752011-10-04T20:19:38.187-04:002011-10-04T20:19:38.187-04:00Tim, CP giving is up this year. Percentage hasn...Tim, CP giving is up this year. Percentage hasn't been released. I suspect it may be slightly up if churches received less offerings and kept the same dollar cp amounts.<br /><br />The next few years will reveal whether or not the state conventions are serious about keeping less. Several states are saying that they are on a path to do so. We will see. With the accounting methods used by the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-65660330944123320912011-10-04T18:06:01.876-04:002011-10-04T18:06:01.876-04:00"It is virtually impossible to significantly ..."It is virtually impossible to significantly change the formulas for distributing Cooperative Program receipts from the churches."<br /><br />Ok, so I think you said that it is really hard to change what the state conventions give forward to the CP program, AND the % allocations are nigh impossible to change.<br /><br />Am I right?<br /><br />Assuming so, what would you do differently Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-88471458350804458672011-10-04T14:15:16.218-04:002011-10-04T14:15:16.218-04:00William -
I may be willing to champion for more ...William - <br /><br />I may be willing to champion for more CP dollars to be given if we knew where it was going and transparency was present.Jon L. Esteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13197096460227507823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-60697607534822676672011-10-04T11:28:45.207-04:002011-10-04T11:28:45.207-04:00Maybe someone will devise a 1% solution?Maybe someone will devise a 1% solution?Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01637750764381837761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-49337117387887350312011-10-04T11:27:25.968-04:002011-10-04T11:27:25.968-04:00Please spare us from more of the WMU.
Here's ...Please spare us from more of the WMU.<br /><br />Here's a great article on the increased giving.<br /><br />http://www.bpnews.net/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-21423814485630641342011-10-04T10:40:04.761-04:002011-10-04T10:40:04.761-04:00Time to revive the WMU.Time to revive the WMU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-38197431462577957422011-10-04T09:50:25.854-04:002011-10-04T09:50:25.854-04:00And congratulations to Frank Page and the SBC as a...And congratulations to Frank Page and the SBC as a whole for the infintesimal increase in CP for the fiscal year just ended. Any increase is good in this climate.<br /><br />I appreciate the way FP handles things.William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-70283667242929736022011-10-04T09:48:57.311-04:002011-10-04T09:48:57.311-04:00Anon, the CP will have some level of support from ...Anon, the CP will have some level of support from the churches, meaning that there is some degree of cooperation for our common work. It's just not as high as it has been and no one knows how low it will finally settle at.<br /><br />I grant your implied point that our mod/lib friends, many who have exited the SBC and others who are unengaged in the SBC, agreed with the concept and funded it William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-33988685293552126352011-10-04T09:25:09.654-04:002011-10-04T09:25:09.654-04:00William -
For us, to raise our CP giving would me...William -<br /><br />For us, to raise our CP giving would mean we would have to reduce somewhere else. We have new people coming in but we do not harp on giving. We do share with our new members, a a new members class, how we operate financially. I do preach on it when it is in the passage we are dealing with. I don't go looking for giving scripture just to preach on the subject.<br /><br />IJon L. Esteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13197096460227507823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-91650407057583052812011-10-04T09:20:19.364-04:002011-10-04T09:20:19.364-04:00The churches are choosing to give less because tha...The churches are choosing to give less because that is what these churches have always done. Now they get to do it with an official blessing of the Convention. Cooperation requires a certain level of tolerance not typically given to people that place such a high value on "doctrinal purity." Thus, talk about the decline of CP giving, even allowing for economic stress, is not about Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com