tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post7127236107788608970..comments2023-04-04T08:07:42.350-04:00Comments on SBC Plodder: Average SBC senior pastor pay: $56,845William Thorntonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-88319470488143037022012-09-06T11:29:29.658-04:002012-09-06T11:29:29.658-04:00"Tim, all the salary figures used exclude ben..."Tim, all the salary figures used exclude benefits."<br /><br />If there are any?<br /><br />BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-81488852880745098262012-09-06T06:05:10.015-04:002012-09-06T06:05:10.015-04:00An astute reader will have noticed that I used the...An astute reader will have noticed that I used the older 2010 study not the current 2012...oops, in a hurry.<br /><br />William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-67705129671792711252012-09-05T18:08:25.492-04:002012-09-05T18:08:25.492-04:00Kevin, I am not concerned about the data being ske...Kevin, I am not concerned about the data being skewed. You may find better data in which case I will look at it. If not, this hard data trumps all of our feelings as to what the figures should be.<br /><br />Tim, all the salary figures used exclude benefits.William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-943739761798767112012-09-05T16:40:13.815-04:002012-09-05T16:40:13.815-04:00Oh man, not "Lifeway!" We get our stuff...Oh man, not "Lifeway!" We get our stuff through Guidestone!!!!<br /><br />TimTim Dahlhttp://tikesbestfriend.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-44503913291606099802012-09-05T16:39:07.037-04:002012-09-05T16:39:07.037-04:00If I read that right: they didn't take insuran...If I read that right: they didn't take insurance into account?<br /><br />Man, that is tough! I mean, if we are going to be compared to teachers and such, shouldn't benefits be included?<br /><br />We (me and my two boys) get our insurance thru Lifeway at the moment. My wife gets her insurance thru her work. It cost us (me and the boys) $770 per month for our medical. It would have Tim Dahlhttp://tikesbestfriend.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-72077068491155923832012-09-05T16:30:17.380-04:002012-09-05T16:30:17.380-04:00Hey William,
I don't know current proportions,...Hey William,<br />I don't know current proportions, but a few years ago, it was over half of all SBC churches that were 1-99 membership. If that is anywhere close today, there were 316 responses out of a potential sample size of approx 22,000, or 316/22,000= 1.4% response. I am thinking that many small churches that are able to pay much less are not going to report due to lack of concern(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-61447343945715019772012-09-05T15:56:48.131-04:002012-09-05T15:56:48.131-04:00I'm reading the tea leaves here and suppose th...I'm reading the tea leaves here and suppose that many think the average is too high.<br /><br />Go to the link. It doesn't take much to check the average salary for senior pastor <i>by church size</i>, or <i>by average attendance</i>, or by <i>by church budget</i>. <br /><br />Pastor a church that has average attendance of 75-99? Average salary of the 316 churches in that size that Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00318761483549322086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-76104788658596696462012-09-05T15:12:09.401-04:002012-09-05T15:12:09.401-04:00Kevin, go to the link and you may view the respons...Kevin, go to the link and you may view the responses which were in all of the categories you mention. The implication of your comment is that the survey may be unusable because it is not representative. I think that the number of responses is such that your concerns may be dismissed.<br /><br />You could email them and ask.William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-28801517850043549502012-09-05T15:04:01.560-04:002012-09-05T15:04:01.560-04:00Nah, "senior pastor" is just the term us...Nah, "senior pastor" is just the term used for pastor - single staff or large staff. Don't we all feel more important now that single staff, lone ranger staff, one and only one staff pastors can call themselves the "senior pastor?"William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-87024177349029473402012-09-05T15:00:32.299-04:002012-09-05T15:00:32.299-04:00The compensation study used to include the median ...The compensation study used to include the median but the distribution was such that it was almost the same as the average. To simplify the reports the median figure was dropped. William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-43222713313825811212012-09-05T11:46:14.688-04:002012-09-05T11:46:14.688-04:00It would be interesting to know what size churches...It would be interesting to know what size churches the respondents were from who answered the survey. With the majority of churches in the SBC having 100 or less congregants, I highly doubt if that figure is correct for the 40,000 + churches that comprise the SBC. I don't doubt that the figure is accurate for those who responded...I just think that many who are in small churches, and who Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-49688634675674597912012-09-05T11:07:22.187-04:002012-09-05T11:07:22.187-04:00Does this report take into account the salaries of...Does this report take into account the salaries of pastors who do not consider themselves "senior pastor"? I consider a senior pastor to be a pastor who has other pastors on staff, making them "senior" to the other pastors. However, I imagine most churches do not have more than one person on pastoral staff, and thus, no "senior pastor". Or, is any single-pastor a &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-39411110360396398532012-09-05T10:52:41.264-04:002012-09-05T10:52:41.264-04:00Way to leave us hanging...Way to leave us hanging...Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09053170192753696440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-17882352097095580652012-09-05T09:44:48.319-04:002012-09-05T09:44:48.319-04:00Be interesting to know the median figure in additi...Be interesting to know the median figure in addition to the mean figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com