tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post6211291853253813704..comments2023-04-04T08:07:42.350-04:00Comments on SBC Plodder: The considerable contrast between Russell Moore and Richard Land William Thorntonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-70809204047036607632013-11-01T03:38:38.226-04:002013-11-01T03:38:38.226-04:00To be brief, my point is not what Moore says but w...To be brief, my point is not what Moore says but what he does.<br /><br />Some seem to like his tone as compared with Land. Everyone has a preference, I suppose. But the churches of the SBC are funding the ERLC's budget at just over $3 million (correcting my previous mention of $8 million)...to what end? What does this buy us?<br /><br />Does it provide the periodic face time for Moore on Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-79895445527581182342013-10-30T11:20:43.918-04:002013-10-30T11:20:43.918-04:00That the early enrollment process for Obamacare is...That the early enrollment process for Obamacare is problematic, as was the early enrollment process for Bush’s prescription drug plan, is not disputed, but in time the technology issues will be improved. And the President is correct in that enrollment is not ACA, but some will equate process with outcome, nonetheless. Moreover, pronouncements of ACA as a failed system are woefully premature and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-20082684132792210472013-10-30T04:25:22.632-04:002013-10-30T04:25:22.632-04:00"And the strained argument has been rejected ..."And the strained argument has been rejected by all but the small, yet highly motivated and vocal, electorate opposed to anything associated with Obama."<br /><br />Agreed. Those who would oppose something merely because of its association with Obama do have a strained and rejected argument. The signature legislative achievement of his presidency is already beginning run into the wallJonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-52390181324947449362013-10-29T12:56:35.881-04:002013-10-29T12:56:35.881-04:00I'm somewhat, but not completely, shocked by a...I'm somewhat, but not completely, shocked by a few of your conclusions. <br /><br />Well said.Leehttp://deepintheheart.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-3112096269675226722013-10-29T10:47:05.121-04:002013-10-29T10:47:05.121-04:00"My point was that Dr. Moore is going to rais..."My point was that Dr. Moore is going to raise the alarm about Obamacare's impact on religious liberty."<br /><br />And the strained argument has been rejected by all but the small, yet highly motivated and vocal, electorate opposed to anything associated with Obama.<br /><br />OK, he raised an alarm, and now, perhaps he perceives a need to move on and do other things that can Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-71643248362945283332013-10-28T18:24:51.882-04:002013-10-28T18:24:51.882-04:00Something is strangely familiar with Anonymous'...Something is strangely familiar with Anonymous' writing. :)<br /><br />I agree with you, if people are told that they can have everything and have others mostly foot the bill, they will likely say they want it. But that wasn't the aim of my comment.<br /><br />My point was that Dr. Moore is going to raise the alarm about Obamacare's impact on religious liberty. In fact, he already Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-56462611559128709932013-10-28T10:37:25.502-04:002013-10-28T10:37:25.502-04:00"Dr. Moore will talk extensively about how th..."Dr. Moore will talk extensively about how the ACA is one of the greatest threats to religious liberty in modern times."<br /><br />Say Obamacare and some folks don't like it. Say the components of Obamacare and most want it. Making contraceptives a part of the plan ... well, most Americans want such. Vatican, no, but the American Catholics the Vatican represents, yes. Same with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-23736258927259816682013-10-28T03:13:49.838-04:002013-10-28T03:13:49.838-04:00From the website:
"The ERLC is dedicated to ...From the website:<br /><br />"The ERLC is dedicated to engaging the culture with the gospel of Jesus Christ and speaking to issues in the public square for the protection of religious liberty and human flourishing."<br /><br />This establishes the ERLC as the SBC's voice to the federal US government regarding "religious liberty" and "human flourishing".<br /><br Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-80595531992970922832013-10-27T17:02:13.469-04:002013-10-27T17:02:13.469-04:00We'll have to wait and see where it leads us--...We'll have to wait and see where it leads us--but I don't think you are going to like where we end up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-23923114281901897012013-10-24T12:24:33.876-04:002013-10-24T12:24:33.876-04:00“. . . we are no longer the moral majority. We are...“. . . we are no longer the moral majority. We are a prophetic minority.” <br /><br />I would add:<br /><br />“. . . we are no longer the moral majority. We are a prophetic minority [among other prophetic minorities].” <br /><br />"a" makes it clear that we are not "the," but "other" makes clear the complexity of the religious landscape using a bit of humility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-75762882739811059212013-10-24T11:12:59.984-04:002013-10-24T11:12:59.984-04:00I really like Dr. Moore and his approach. Here...I really like Dr. Moore and his approach. Here's another one of his quotes:<br /><br />“. . . we are no longer the moral majority. We are a prophetic minority.” <br /><br />Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05277364381136109821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-37022899994345810172013-10-24T06:58:37.895-04:002013-10-24T06:58:37.895-04:00Thanks for this! I agree with the assessment betwe...Thanks for this! I agree with the assessment between Land & Moore and I'm very grateful for Dr.Moore and his approach to focus on the Gospel. As the WSJ article was a bit unbalanced please consider linking in your original post to Dr. moore's post in response yesterday (link is below). Again, thanks. & blessings, <br />Jason Lee <br /><br />http://www.russellmoore.com/?p=12959Jason Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-8372959414857013542013-10-23T10:40:47.050-04:002013-10-23T10:40:47.050-04:00"... of biblical morality."
Herein is a..."... of biblical morality."<br /><br />Herein is a highly important issue. Conservatives, like progressives, but less so, engage questions of pluralism, too, with non-religious conservatives being a bit more open to such than their religious counterparts. Although conservatives and progressives largely reject relativism (and both sometimes unaware of their own creeping relativism), bothAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-60294714455202666082013-10-23T10:13:54.576-04:002013-10-23T10:13:54.576-04:00Rick, I think we have not been very vigorous in fi...Rick, I think we have not been very vigorous in fighting the war that actually could yield positive and lasting results in favor of one that has done very little for us. Sure, this isn't a zero sum game but contrast the energy and passion devoted to the culture war with the masses with that given to the war for redemption of individual souls.<br /><br />I always appreciate your comments, and William Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12502242710436994507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2294170801673753291.post-33744500084317772072013-10-23T09:37:38.678-04:002013-10-23T09:37:38.678-04:00Considerable contrast indeed.
We are waving the ...Considerable contrast indeed. <br /><br />We are waving the white flag, while the godless culture marches steadily onward without opposition. Does the fact that we have lost most of the culture war battles really mean we should not fight strongly for all that we believe in?<br /><br />I would rather lose a battle, standing up for what is right, and be thought an obstructionist, than to make peaceRick Patricknoreply@blogger.com